Anglican Archbishop Thabo Makgoba's midnight Christmas mass sermons provide a timely state of the year for "God's people". Ahead of this year's message, The Most Reverend Makgoba invites Muhammad Hussain to a Zoom call to talk about his theme this year, apartheid Israel and his love for honey and the Springboks.
Archbishop Thabo Cecil Makgoba's voice emanates from the laptop and says in 2023 "we were on the edge and just about falling down into the valley".
I had no visual of him during our two 40-minute Zoom interviews, and like Moses, I had to draw on the voice of the unseen, as the purdah (veil) between us deprived me of that soothing Roman collar and those bright purple garments associated with the clerical ensemble - which I was looking forward to.